Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

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Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Dr Dengar on Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:38 pm

While checking a few different Lili Ledy INT-4 Interceptor Boxes today, it seemed something odd is going on with a description on the front flap.

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The description reads:
CONTIENE: 1 vehiculo con alas a control remoto y cañón láser móvil

Which according to Google translates into:
1 vehicle with remote wings and mobile laser cannon

Which is pretty close to the actual description on the Kenner box (see pic below):
CONTENTS: One vehicle with remote operated wings and movable laser cannon.

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Sofar everything seems OK. But when examining the descriptions of three boxes in more detail it seems like there were remnants of ink covering the “alas a control remoto” ("remote wings") part on two boxes.
One one box this part was even clearly crossed out?

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I can imagine that kids made ink marks on these boxes in the past, but in the examples above it does not follow a random pattern.

Maybe a spelling error was made in the Spanish description that was corrected by crossing it out?
Or - and this is probably a far stretch - might it be that the description was altered in the factory or in shops (or needed to be altered) to prevent that consumers were misled in buying a remotely controlled vehicle?

If you have a MIB Lili Ledy INT-4, can you please check whether you also see ink marks on your box on the front flap and submit pics in this thread?

Thank you!
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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by arohk on Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:16 am

I guess it could be possible so people don't mistake it even though the translation from English to Spanish is pretty much the same and wing is alas in Spanish it would be a tough call as to why it was crossed out considering it seems to be under the tape which would indicate to me it was done before it was sealed but that is just my opinion.
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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Dr Dengar on Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:02 am

Hi Larry,

Thanks for commenting.
You have a strong point. The ink marks are partly covered by the tape suggesting these were made early on (possibly factory made?).

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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Suber2016 on Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:51 pm

Hi there. I have a INT-4 box and the line "alas a control remoto" is completly under a spot of ink (I'll upload a picture later), and the spot is covered by the tape, so it was added before it was sealed.
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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Suber2016 on Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:57 pm

What I believe is, that "a control remoto" phrase might confuse people by infering something related to electronic devices. Because here, in Mexico, when we talk about something with "remote control", we think of radio controlled toys, and not a simple lever like it is in this case.
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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Suber2016 on Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:02 pm

I also checked the conditions of ink in the spot with a special magniffier lens for offset print, and it was added after the print. Even more, I do believe it was applied manually and that is why it looks more as a factory mistake and not as what I conssider it is: an answer to cover a phrase that might cause confusion amongst purchasers.
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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Dr Dengar on Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:28 pm

Welcome aboard and thanks for chiming in Suber! Very Happy

So it might be that the text on the box was partly crossed out to prevent that buyers would be confused in purchasing a remote controlled vehicle.
That makes sense.

I would love to see the pictures of your INT-4 box. cheers
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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Mosh on Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:55 pm

I am a native Spanish speaker and I also subscribe to the idea that the legend as it was could be very misleading: every-body would think there was a remote control inside ; )

If the crossing-out was done intentionally, I would immediately think it was just the Lilí-Ledy guys trying to avoid later legal hassle.
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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Suber2016 on Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:37 pm

I'm trying to upload the pictures from my iPad, but it's impossible. I'll try later from my lap. Cheers.
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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Suber2016 on Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:33 am

ok, here is my box

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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Suber2016 on Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:35 am

and a close up

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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Suber2016 on Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:38 am

As you can see, in this image the phrase "a control remoto" is fully cover by this handmade line of ink, leaving only the phrase "... con alas y cañón láser..." ("... with wings and laser cannon..."), wich made make more sense according to whta was inside the box. The mark erradicates false expectations.
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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Suber2016 on Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:42 am

Is curious to note that, in the other examples, only a word or a letter is covered. We can imagine the process: "Those boxes are wrong, cover that phrase". Said by a guy in charge to a group of people with a lot more work to do, or a group that didn`t like extra work at all!!! jajajajaja!!! Anyway, at the end, its pretty clear for me the reason of that mark in this particular item. Would be interestig to have examples from other lattitudes, such as Europe...
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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Dr Dengar on Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:52 am

Thank you very much for sharing your pictures and thoughts, Suber. Very Happy

On your box the ink marks are very clear. Nice.

It would be great to have pictures from other collectors. As such we could maybe cover the full spectrum of ink marks from fully crossed out to totally absent.

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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Paul Armory on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:21 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Is curious to note that, in the other examples, only a word or a letter is covered. We can imagine the process: "Those boxes are wrong, cover that phrase". Said by a guy in charge to a group of people with a lot more work to do, or a group that didn`t like extra work at all!!! jajajajaja!!! Anyway, at the end, its pretty clear for me the reason of that mark in this particular item. Would be interestig to have examples from other lattitudes, such as Europe...
Cheers!


rofl the gringo who made this mistake was never heard from again  rofl
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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by spoons on Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:15 pm

Hello all - my first time on TantiveXI and learnt something new! I had no idea the pen mark on my INT-4 was deliberate. Here's another pic to add to the evidence


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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Commander Clint on Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:27 pm

welcome spoons. And thanks for providing another example of the Lili Ledy INT-4 with the pen marks. cheers
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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by spoons on Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:54 pm

Many thanks Clint - good to be here!
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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Dr Dengar on Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:57 am

Welcome aboard Andrew! Very Happy

And a great first post helping us further with confirming this neat feature on Ledy INT4 boxes. cheers
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Re: Lili Ledy INT-4: Something Odd about the Box?

Post by Suber2016 on Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:03 am

And in this one, as in my case, is completly marked over the text, which confirms what I had said. Thanks spoons!
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