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Post by The Librarian Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:08 am

[coo_intro ITEM-TITLE="Yoda" ITEM-SUBTITLE="Jedi Master" ITEM-COMPANY="Lili Ledy" IMAGE-URL-ONLY="https://i.servimg.com/u/f11/19/64/64/24/img_1915.jpg" YEAR-RELEASED="1984" RELEASED-ON="?" FIRST-CARD="?" LAST-CARD="?" FACTORY-CODES="?" BOOKMARK-NAME="BOOKMARK_NAME_NO_SPACES"]

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[snippet SNIPPET-NAME="NOTE"]A. COO xxxx is unique to Lili Ledy (‘regular’ no COO Ledy Yoda)
B. COO xxxx is shared by Lili Ledy and Kenner (rare Hong Kong Lili Ledy Yoda)

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Remark: COO xxxx was derived from COO xxxx and therefore both COO types belong to the same COO family. The mould of both Lili Ledy Yoda's (COO xxxx and COO xxxx) is therefore the same.

A. Yoda with COO xxxx

The dark green skin Yoda with black eyes is the common Lili Ledy Yoda. This figure was released on Regreso 30- and 50-backs.

Let’s have a look at the different green tones of Yoda’s head and the colour/shape of the pupils.
There is quite some variation as you can see:
So what we see?
1: Kenner COO xxxx: Dark brown, Pacman shaped pupils. Green head tone: ++++
2: Kenner COO xxxx: Dark brown, Pacman shaped pupils. Green head tone: +++
3: Kenner COO xxxx: Orange, small round shaped pupils. Green head tone: +
4: Kenner COO xxxx: Cherry, big round shaped pupils. Green head tone: ++

5: Lili Ledy COO xxxx: Black, Pacman shaped pupils. Green head tone: +++++
6: Same
7: Same
8: Lili Ledy COO xxxx: Orange, irregular shaped pupils. Green head tone: ++++

DIFFERENCES:

Compared to Kenner Hong Kong figures having COO xxxx, the ‘regular’ Lili Ledy Yoda has:
- An unique COO (COO xxxx)
- A head which is cast in a darker green plastic
- Darker green paint on hands and feet. The paint is often still tacky leaving stains on cape, cane, and snake (good signs that the accessories are genuine Lili Ledy BTW! )
- Very black instead of dark brown Pacman shaped pupils




B. Yoda with COO xxx

The Lili Ledy Hong Kong Yoda is a rare figure having a lighter green skin and orange eyes. The figure is included in the pics together with the ‘regular’ no COO Yoda (see section A).
The Lili Ledy Hong Kong Yoda has been confirmed on a "Retorno" 12 back with the Lili Ledy Guarantee sheet inside the bubble!
This Yoda might even been released on the early “Imperio Contraataca” (ESB) cards, but so far definite proof is lacking.



DIFFERENCES:

Compared to Kenner Hong Kong figures having COO xxxx, the Lili Ledy Hong Kong Yoda has:
- A head which is a shade darker than most Kenner figures, though the head is not so dark as the ‘regular’ Lili Ledy Yoda.
- Same for the paint used for the hands and feet
- Orange, irregular shaped pupils

The figure came with the same accessories (cape, cane, snake and belt) as the ‘regular’ Lili Ledy Yoda.

You can read more about this interesting Lili Ledy Yoda in Ozio’s special report (to be added soon).
Special Report: Unknown and Rare Lili Ledy Figures


UPDATE NOV 2013: A third Lili Ledy Yoda version was recently discovered by forum member Merlin. This version looks like the HK version having a lighter green skin. However, instead of orange eyes this version has black eyes, like the more common Lili Ledy Yoda. As such it looks like a transition figure between the two Yoda's described earlier in this post.
This third version was confirmed on a "Regreso" 14 back. Unfortunately, the COO of the figure has not been identified yet. Will it be COO xxxx or COO xxxx?
This Yoda version could well be a transition figure between the light green HK version and the dark green no COO version.

UPDATE NOV 2013: Even a fourth Lili Ledy Yoda version was recently discovered. This version looks like common dark green skin version. However, instead of COO xxxx (no COO) this figure has COO xxxx (HK).
Like the third Yoda version this fourth version could well be a transition figure between the light green HK version and the dark green no COO version.[/snippet]

[snippet SNIPPET-NAME="Accessories"]The Lili Ledy cape has a very slight beige tone compared to a Kenner cape and is made from a slightly softer fabric.

The Ledy Yoda has a reddish brown cane having a mould circle at the top. I have a few canes with the same mould in my collection which came with regular Kenner figures. I can’t imagine they are all Lili Ledy, so it is safe to assume that the same mould was used by Kenner as well. The colour of the Kenner canes is different: Light brown or brown.
Therefore, to be 100% sure you have a Lili Ledy cane, it should be reddish brown.

The Lili Ledy Yoda carries a belt which is easily identified by the mould circles on the small light saber (that silver ‘thing’), pouch and connecting ring. Keep in mind however that Kenner also used the same mould to cast belts, so the Lili Ledy belt mould is not exclusive to Lili Ledy!. The Kenner belt is slightly lighter brown compared to Lili Ledy.

UPDATE NOV 2013: I have recently acquired a sealed Yoda ESB-a baggie with green snake. Interestingly this Yoda has all the Kenner counterparts of Lili Ledy acessories (cane, belt, and snake, all with those little mould circles, or better ejector pin marks). That confirms that the steel moulds of the cane, belt, and snake were shared by Kenner and Lili Ledy. The Ledy accessories can be distinguished as described in this post.
Probably these accessories belong to the COO family formed by COO xxxx and COO xxxx. Kenner figures having COO xxxx would therefore also come with a cane, belt, and snake having ejector pin marks.

The Lili Ledy Yoda carries a snake around his neck having mould circles on top (V1 mould) or on the bottom (V2 mould) of the snake’s head. Both moulds are not unique and were used by Kenner as well.
One way to distinguish a Lili Ledy snake is by colour. The colour of a brown Lili Ledy snakes differs in a very subtle way from a Kenner brown snake. However this can probably only be seen when you have them in both in your hands.
In case the mould circle is on top of the snake’s head (V1 mould), there is another difference. The area around the circle is less indented compared to a Kenner snake, which can easily be observed. Maybe this has something to do with the plastic used by Lili Ledy.

Note: I included the green Kenner snakes in this overview, as they appeared to have the same mould as the brown Ledy snakes (V1 and V2). Probably the green Kenner snakes left the factory as brown snakes 30 years ago, and their present appearance is due to discolouration. Apparently Lili Ledy used a different type of plastic which is not prone to discoloration. Green Lili Ledy snakes has not been confirmed so far..[/snippet]

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