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Post by the89thchris on Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:59 am

Non-Sonic Welded Figures - How common are these?

I've been looking at these lately and there is a lot of information about finds and the SWCA describes the production process of sonic welding very well. Just curious how many of you guys have these and how you got them.

Presumably they were sold on cards, I couldn't find any reference to any MOCs with a bubble of loose parts  rofl  I'm sure they exist as some bubbles are pretty spacious. Although, I'm also hearing that some of them press together pretty snugly, so maybe the flaw wasn't noticed until the figures were opened.

My main question is, have they turned up for pretty much every figure? I see a small handful for sale right now, all fairly inexpensive.

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Post by ChristianC on Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:14 am

Good question dude, I've always wondered about these myself. The blokes here will definitely have some idea.
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Post by mini99 on Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:53 pm

Interesting to see the internals of the figures, never really looked at these before.
Would be interesting to know a bit more about them and if any have been found in pieces in a bubble.
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Post by Nico on Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:19 pm

Very interesting Chris cheers I would imagine there must of been some figures that did not weld properly but made it onto a cardback then some of the figure came apart in the bubble scratch If any did and were to survive until now I dought there would be many legitimate examples about. I have never seen one myself popcorn
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Post by cantina_patron on Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:42 am

I recall seeing a Han Bespin moc that had completely fallen apart within the bubble some years ago, possibly on TIG. From memory I think it had also been graded like that by AFA lol!
I'll see if I can find a pic.
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Post by cantina_patron on Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:19 am

I found the relevant thread that had the Han Bespin mentioned above. Alex (General Kahn) posted the pic. in 2011 but unfortunately the image is no longer available. I've tried google images for the original source, but so far I've had no luck.
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Post by the89thchris on Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:22 pm

Whoa, is that a casualty of this recent photobucked nonsense or unrelated?
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Post by cantina_patron on Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:01 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Whoa, is that a casualty of this recent photobucked nonsense or unrelated?

Unrelated Chris, some of the pictures I posted on TIG using servimg are also no longer available. I found another thread where the Han moc was discussed, but again the picture has gone. To quote Alex "The overall grade on this was AFA 20, the individual sub grades where Card 40, Bubble 75 and rather astonishingly the figure got a 10!"
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Post by grinchy on Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:52 pm

interesting thread, I see these pop up on ebay from time to time, never bid on one and its not something I have in the collection, never seen one on a cardback
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Post by the89thchris on Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:43 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] That sounds amazing! I'm kinda surprised it was even possible for the figure to get a 10 considering there should have been a rub of some kind on the paint.

Interesting to know that such a thing has turned up atleast.

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Post by hellhippie on Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:07 pm

i dont own any kenner non sonic welded figures . i do own a couple of poch non sonic welds because of the sloppy process and non optimal way the figures were produced early on in spain . i think alot of the kenner ones being offered lately youve got to be careful with as i notice alot of these were forced apart . after all we live in the world of people doing anything for a quick buck . i'll get some pics of my non sonic welded poch's up asap . as far as carded goes im no help at all

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Post by hellhippie on Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:26 pm

all poch non sonic welds . i didnt take the rebel soldier apart because he has a crack in his back porso and its a pain in the butt to put back together
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Post by Commander Clint on Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:45 pm

I think most of the figures out there, are just poorly welded, and come apart easily.
Unless they are Lili Ledy overstock.
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Post by mini99 on Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:26 am

Seeking Leia like that is so wrong!
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Post by the89thchris on Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:11 pm

I was thinking something to that effect. It would be interesting to get a good look at the pieces our members have.

There doesn't seem to be much interest and I'm glad that they aren't sold for outrageous premiums lol shocking really as that tends to happen for no good reason.
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Post by Commander Clint on Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:47 pm

I think there is lots of interest in those pieces and lots of guys will have some. Hopefully some of them will start showing us what they have.
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Post by ourchickenshack on Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:21 pm

I recently acquired a Vader figure that we have discussed in the mod section . It seems to fall in to the category of "poorly welded" figures . I will clean him up and try to get better pics to post here as I wasn't super happy with the ones I had already taken .

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Post by Commander Clint on Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:28 pm

I almost forgot that I had one. lol! Here is my poorly welded FX-7.  When I got it, the arms where already broken off the white arm sprue. tongue

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Post by the89thchris on Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:43 pm

That is awesome! Great example of why I like these. If you didn't have them, the only other way you'd know that much about the mold would be to have pre-production parts. That FX-7 looks particularly interesting.
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Post by hellhippie on Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:39 pm

Nice vader dude

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Post by the89thchris on Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:45 pm

Very cool, some of these look like they came apart by accident or by force if you look at the edges, just as interesting though popcorn
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Post by Jez on Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:54 am

Great thread folks. Theses literally little bad boys have always interested me.
The following photo is of a graded NSW LXW that tis owned by Marc Carraway (probably the best LXW collection in existence).

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Ever since i saw it I have always bugged Marc to sell it to me when the time comes for him to move it on. I think it's brilliant.
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Post by Nico on Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:53 pm

Great pic Jez bowwing I searched google but could not find a carded example Embarassed
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Post by Commander Clint on Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:59 pm

Jez, that's a fantastic example. The QC must have been getting lax, by the end.

Would most of the poorly welded examples, be from the end of the toy run??
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