[LE] Zuckuss

[coo_variant ITEM-TITLE="Zuckuss" ITEM-SUBTITLE="Bounty Hunter" ITEM-COMPANY="Lili Ledy" IMAGE-URL-ONLY="https://i.servimg.com/u/f11/19/64/64/24/img_1614.jpg" VARIANT-TYPE="no coo scar" COO-FAMILY="1-A3" RELEASED-ON="El Regreso del Jedi 50 back" FACTORY-CODES="" LIBRARY-THREAD="https://www.tantivexi.com/" DISCUSSION-THREAD="https://www.tantivexi.com/f64-vintage-toy-discussion" BOOKMARK-NAME="BOOKMARK_NAME_NO_SPACES"]

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[snippet SNIPPET-NAME="Basic Coo Guide"]Link to be added[/snippet]

[snippet SNIPPET-NAME="Advanced Coo Guide"]Link to be added[/snippet]

[snippet SNIPPET-NAME="MOC Guide"]Link to be added[/snippet]

[snippet SNIPPET-NAME="Weapons &
accessories Guide"]Link to be added[/snippet]

[snippet SNIPPET-NAME="NOTE"]COO (Family#1)(1-A3) is shared by Lili Ledy and Kenner
The Zuckuss sharing the same COO as the Lili Ledy version, was supplied via "Made in China" baggies.

REMARK: There are two versions of Zuckuss lacking a Country of Origin and having big circles on the heels and little circles behind the knees. One version came with a shiny silver belt (Kenner), the other with a dull silver belt (Lili Ledy). [/snippet]

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[section_header]Lili Ledy / Kenner Comparisons[/section_header]

[snippet SNIPPET-NAME="DIFFERENCES"]Compared to his Kenner ("Made in China" baggie) counterpart, the Lili Ledy Zuckuss has:
- a dull silver instead of shiny silver belt.
- a deep red instead of bright red nose tip.
- darker blue eyes.

REMARK: The subtle differences of the COO (1-A3) and the presence or absence of dents, can not be exclusively linked to the Lili Ledy version (see schemes below). This makes sense assuming a copy of the same steel mould was used.[/snippet]

[mini_title]Lili Ledy always on the right[/mini_title]

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[snippet SNIPPET-NAME="Weapons"]The Lili Ledy Zuckuss gun has the V2 mould. This mould was also used by Kenner. The differences (if any) with the Ledy V2 gun are very hard to tell. In natural daylight the Lili Ledy guns seem dull black, whereas the Kenner guns seem more grey black. It is a very subtle difference which is impossible to catch by camera.

NOTE: There appears to be two versions of the V2 mould (2A and 2B) that only slightly differ in the relative position of mould circles (or better ejector pin marks) on the gun. The two versions are not exclusively linked to Lili Ledy, but were probably in use by Kenner as well.

SUMMARY:

The V1 mould lacks circles no. 2 and 4.
Both the V2 and V3 mould have four different mould circles (numbered with white figures 1,2,3,4 in the scheme below)(comparison pictures soon).
The V2 mould has a complete circle no. 2 in contrast to the V3 mould where circle 2 is not fully round at the edge.
The Lili Ledy Zuckuss gun is based upon the V2 mould and not the V3 mould (note that the TIG guide refers to the V3 mould as being Ledy, so if the theory is correct there might be need for a small change).
Kenner also issued a V2 gun. The differences (if any) with the Lili Ledy V2 gun are very hard to tell. In natural daylight the Lili Ledy guns seem dull black, whereas the Kenner guns seem more grey black. It is a very subtle difference which is impossible to catch by camera.
The Lili Ledy V2 gun (and probably also the Kenner V2 gun) came in two slightly different moulds (2A and 2B) differing in the relative positions of the circles 1 and 4 (see pic above).

REMARK: Circle no. 2 can be flat or protruded in the Lili Ledy guns. See the pic above (pictures soon): The gun at the top has a flat circle no. 2, whereas the bottom gun has a protruding circle. However it seems that the mould does not determine whether this circle is flat or protruding. A flat circle no. 2 can for instance be found in both the V2A and V2B moulds (see pic below)(pictures soon). Maybe this is also the case for a protruding circle no. 2.
EDIT: In fact these circles are called ejector pin marks. They mark the spots where the newly injected plastic part is pushed out of the steel mould by ejector pins. Depending on the used conditions and type of plastic, the depth of the ejector pin marks may vary in height.

Maybe circle no. 2 got protruded sometimes by removing the freshly cast plastic gun out of its mould at a time point when the plastic was not yet hardened completely, so irrespective whether it was mould V2A or V2B. Maybe Lili Ledy used plastics with a slightly different composition and/or applied process conditions rendering the plastic less rigid at the time point of removing the mould. This is just plain speculation off course but it would fit nicely with similar observations of small deformations on the COO of the Lili Ledy Yoda and Gamorrean Guard.[/snippet]

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